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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: moz30 on March 17, 2012, 02:18 am
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I´ve made new drug checks and they are relay scary !!!
I will post the photos, a video and I will write everything tomorrow, because i go sleep.
I have tested: c63amg H and coke
sesampino coke
Speaker
Pfandleier´s pills
Jürgen2001´s speed
You don´t want to know what they found in this drugs( the pills were ok).
Only the most dangerous think i have to write now.
In sesampinos and c63amg coke were found Levamisol!
It´s a dangerous medicine for animals.
The rest I will write tomorrow...
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This are the test numbers: 16)c63amg coke
17)sesampino coke
18)c63amg H
19)Jürgen2001´s speed
20)Pfandleier´s pills
21)Pfandleier´s pills
22)Speaker
I´m relay sorry for the bad quality, but it was difficult to took photos.
There were so much people at the results and they get nervous if someone took photos!
This is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtVrwAs3eGY&feature=youtu.be
Here is the download link for the video and photos. I would be happy if someone can make it better.
Than i can´t read the some Substances!
Let´s start...
The results were write in mg per gram
Jürgen2001´s "80%speed" was the baddest stuff, i only think tha people love it because of the Meth and the caffeine!
Amphetamine 65mg/g
Methamphetamine 66mg/g
caffeine 230mg/g
Speaker were one pill were tested with 167mg
Pfandleier´s pills have different weights, but the most have 330mg.
I ve tested two pills the smallest with 270mg und the biggest with 370mg!
270mg pill : 90mg MDMA
370mg pill : 134mg MDMA
So they are one of the correctest Tests i ve made.
The only think with this pills is that the found a little bit of a indefinable substance, that's the reason why the test paper is red!
But i asked and the think this substance come in at the synthase process and were not good washed at the end.
So no problem...
I only know in every coke they found up to three substances!
But in sesampinos coke is dangerous because of the Levamisol!
Than in c63amg´s they only found some mg, but sesampinos has 127mg Levamisol!
Btw. The BEC is normal in every coke, so no problem..
The H is not real H it is only a lot of codeine and medicine!
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This were my last tests one month ago!
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=12559.0
Remember:
I do this to make Sr better and not to cheat vendor´s how many people think!
After I found Sr i red that we are revolutionary so i hope that someone could help me and make also
drug checks if this is legal in your country.
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So I took better photos:
16)http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=bdc2526adf57c50da166c69c7e528106.jpg
17)http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=617a8eecbfa655f8b87e85b23845c6ea.jpg
18)http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=1f9e737a09d93138ac61b89dffcce77e.jpg
19)http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=00a8e83fba622da92e0bf566c2c4fdc3.jpg
20)http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=468bb7774c26f123436f2df97c80b6cf.jpg
21)http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=546cddc9f0759e88641a46e8acbfd14e.jpg
22)http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=89bf4991e90460ab4666d462fddb2406.jpg
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HEROIN:
Thx to Mr White for mailing with check it!
Why to speculate when we can ask directly.
Testing Heroin as purity test is useless. They are not allowed to express value of heroin or 6MAM, only adulterants what can be harmful.
MAIL FROM checkit:
In our analysis results for Heroin we don’t release the values for Diacetylmorphin, 6MAM or Morphin at present. Our machines for analysis are aligned for analysing so called party drugs like XTC, Speed, Kokain, etc. and not so much for analysing Heroin. That’s why we don’t release the value of Heroin components.
I don’t know about which result your’re speaking, but if Diacetylmorphin and 6MAM are listed on the result, they are in this sample. n.a. means that we can’t give the quantity for those substances.
Regards
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unfortunately levamisol gets added in the 'host' country, as its readily available to farmers on the governments dime, plus it seems to 'blend' well with cocaine, but fucking hell are the side effects ever bad!!!!!
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Sesampino never has good stuff as far as I've experienced. :( :(
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Can you please post the elution profiles, COSY/TOCSY spectra and/or mass spectra of your analyses along with the rest of it tommorow?
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Sesampino never has good stuff as far as I've experienced. :( :(
I've had his mdma, I have to say its quite good and crystal clear. Very clean.
-euler
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I guess you will find that Levamisol in nearly every coke that you test in these days.....
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I guess you will find that Levamisol in nearly every coke that you test in these days.....
The latest DEA quote I read was that its in 81% of tested coke and I believe this was 2007, and also that they reported in 2003 it was in 63%, so if the trend has been continuing then yeah it's probably in almost any coke you'll find these days.
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I wonder if anyone is cutting Heroin with Levamisol? I always worried about someone cutting H with Fentanyl. A number of people were dying off that. Now have to worry about this also.
I guess anyone doing Coke should get a periodic CBC (complete Blood Count) blood test. Levamisol is known to inhibit the production of white blood cells.
Scary indeed. MOZ please post up your DATA. This is important info.
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they use that crap to cut coke because(see my post above) A) its plentiful/cheap in the source countries B) it looks/acts/solubility is just like cocaine.
so they won't use it to cut heroin at least not middle east/asia heroin it might be used in the south american tar type.. but I don't think it would be as its white, and well tar is brown...
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I´ve made new drug checks and they are relay scary !!!
I will post the photos, a video and I will write everything tomorrow, because i go sleep.
I have tested: c63amg H and coke
sesampino coke
Speaker
Pfandleier´s pills
Jürgen2001´s speed
You don´t want to know what they found in this drugs( the pills were ok).
Only the most dangerous think i have to write now.
In sesampinos and c63amg coke were found Levamisol!
It´s a dangerous medicine for animals.
The rest I will write tomorrow...
Im glad that my pills are okay haha :D some even had 135mg MDMA ;)
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"possible stimulant effects, a similar appearance to cocaine, and an ability to pass street purity tests"
Could this be the adulterant that is making the difference between washed and unwashed???
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I wonder if anyone is cutting Heroin with Levamisol? I always worried about someone cutting H with Fentanyl. A number of people were dying off that. Now have to worry about this also.
I guess anyone doing Coke should get a periodic CBC (complete Blood Count) blood test. Levamisol is known to inhibit the production of white blood cells.
Scary indeed. MOZ please post up your DATA. This is important info.
Jeez, and im always HOPING i could find some H cut with Fentanyl! (Fent=DOC) ;-)
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Ok i will do my work now, but i ve a problem with the quality of my photos and one video, they are unsharp!
I will post the video and the photos now, but if there is someone who can help me to make the quality better i will make a download link.
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Jürgen2001´s "80%speed"
Amphetamine 65mg/g
Methamphetamine 66mg/g
caffeine 230mg/g
This is really, really bad.... :-\
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I am really glad you posted these test results here, moz30. I wanted to order some coke from Sesampino next week, but now not anymore.
He advertises his stuff as premium quality, lab tested at 78%, but does not mention a word about it containing Levamisol. I cant imagine he didnt know about it if it was really lab tested.
If you guys dont know what Levamisol can cause, you might wanna read this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/flesh-eating-cocaine-laced-veterinary-drug-levamisole/story?id=13902353
Hope to see some statements from Sesampino, Juergen and c63mag here.
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"possible stimulant effects, a similar appearance to cocaine, and an ability to pass street purity tests"
Could this be the adulterant that is making the difference between washed and unwashed???
levamisole doesn't dissolve when you give your birds the traditional acetone bath, I have heard from somebody that generally knows what they're talking about that a chloroform/diethyl ether wash will remove it but chemistry is not really my thing and I've never had to actually do it.
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I am really glad you posted these test results here, moz30. I wanted to order some coke from Sesampino next week, but now not anymore.
He advertises his stuff as premium quality, lab tested at 78%, but does not mention a word about it containing Levamisol. I cant imagine he didnt know about it if it was really lab tested.
If you guys dont know what Levamisol can cause, you might wanna read this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/flesh-eating-cocaine-laced-veterinary-drug-levamisole/story?id=13902353
Hope to see some statements from Sesampino, Juergen and c63mag here.
About the coke: IT IS HARD TO FIND COKE WITHOUT LEVAMISOLE IN THESE DAYS. THE VENDORS DO NOT KNOW IF THERE COKE CONTAINS IT. IT IS PUT IN THE MANUFACTURING COUNTRY. SO IF YOU LIKE COKE AND YOU WILL USE IT. YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE RISK. THE CHANCE THAT THE COKE CONTAINS LEVAMISOLE WAS HIGHER THAN 80% 2007.....
That Speed contains Metamphetamin seems very strange to me, cause i never heard this before. Maybe the vendor try to mix it at home? But i don't know, just an idea.... Don't want to attack anybody....
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when jürgen2001 first put up his "80%" he wrote a never ending story about he conviced his "cook" to do some real pure shit and stuff. my first intention was bullshit and i'm glad i was right :D
just ask him any question somehow related to chemistry, this guy does not have a clue at all what he is talking about.
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I am really glad you posted these test results here, moz30. I wanted to order some coke from Sesampino next week, but now not anymore.
He advertises his stuff as premium quality, lab tested at 78%, but does not mention a word about it containing Levamisol. I cant imagine he didnt know about it if it was really lab tested.
If you guys dont know what Levamisol can cause, you might wanna read this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/flesh-eating-cocaine-laced-veterinary-drug-levamisole/story?id=13902353
Hope to see some statements from Sesampino, Juergen and c63mag here.
The coke´s were between 60-70%.
I also wonder about sesampino´s coke than for one or two month it was better but this time i felt that something is strange.
Like c68amg´s was the 2nd time better. So you don´t know..
Some time a little bit of Levamisol should not so bad for your body, but in high doses it reduced your white blood cells
and you can get infects.
The most disgusting is the use of Levamisol! It´s for animals which have worms in their ass. >:(
I think not so a bad idea to punch speed with Meth, you need only a little bit and it taste very strong!
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unfortunately levamisol gets added in the 'host' country, as its readily available to farmers on the governments dime, plus it seems to 'blend' well with cocaine, but fucking hell are the side effects ever bad!!!!!
Any South American vendors out there lol. Hang on, wait, I'm not actually even joking. We're currently competing with fiat currencies of the world governments, plus all low and mid level street dealers worldwide. Why not try against the big traffickers as well?
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My question is where's CandyShop to promote his mdma pills in this thread?
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nomad bloodbath
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My question is where's CandyShop to promote his mdma pills in this thread?
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nomad bloodbath
I did not test his M, but maybe next time..
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Thanks for doing this moz. I liked juergen's stuff so I'm sad to see it had methamphetamine, I guess I know why it worked so well.
Also goes to show that even the best vendors (sesampino) can have dangerous adulterants in their product without knowing.
Where can you get real amphetamine these days without buying adderall? Sad to see speed is being cut everywhere.
EDIT: You should consider offering a service to vendors where they send you a free sample of their product and you post test results for them. That way
1. You get free drugs!
2. We know which vendors have legit stuff.
And if they don't want to send you any we'll know they've got something to hide.
What do you think?
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Thanks for doing this moz. I liked juergen's stuff so I'm sad to see it had methamphetamine, I guess I know why it worked so well.
Also goes to show that even the best vendors (sesampino) can have dangerous adulterants in their product without knowing.
Where can you get real amphetamine these days without buying adderall? Sad to see speed is being cut everywhere.
EDIT: You should consider offering a service to vendors where they send you a free sample of their product and you post test results for them. That way
1. You get free drugs!
2. We know which vendors have legit stuff.
And if they don't want to send you any we'll know they've got something to hide.
What do you think?
I can´t do this, some people could want revenge!
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Jürgen2001´s "80%speed"
Amphetamine 65mg/g
Methamphetamine 66mg/g
caffeine 230mg/g
This is really, really bad.... :-\
WOWWWW. Glad I never ordered it. I will never do meth, and I could have inadvertently taken some. This is fucked up.
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So im starting back to the festival and im look that i can make better photos, but I can´t promise anything..
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I wonder if anyone is cutting Heroin with Levamisol? I always worried about someone cutting H with Fentanyl. A number of people were dying off that. Now have to worry about this also.
I guess anyone doing Coke should get a periodic CBC (complete Blood Count) blood test. Levamisol is known to inhibit the production of white blood cells.
Scary indeed. MOZ please post up your DATA. This is important info.
Yes, levamisole has been found in heroin: hxxp://www.justice.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/journal2011/mj8-1_16-23.pdf
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So im starting back to the festival and im look that i can make better photos, but I can´t promise anything..
Good job with this moz30. Have fun at the festival!
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I wonder if anyone is cutting Heroin with Levamisol? I always worried about someone cutting H with Fentanyl. A number of people were dying off that. Now have to worry about this also.
I guess anyone doing Coke should get a periodic CBC (complete Blood Count) blood test. Levamisol is known to inhibit the production of white blood cells.
Scary indeed. MOZ please post up your DATA. This is important info.
Yes, levamisole has been found in heroin: hxxp://www.justice.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/journal2011/mj8-1_16-23.pdf
The DEA's website also claims that 95% of Americans do not use drugs...
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My question is where's CandyShop to promote his mdma pills in this thread?
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nomad bloodbath
LOL.
I expected to see the same exact thing.
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When i first read this message i thought what in the hell is levamisol ???
Then i looked on google and saw that they start mixing the product in south america with levamisol when they are making the cocaine bricks.
after some research i found out that it's not dangerous for people who freebase because when you cook the product you clear the coke from all the other substance.
And for snorting it's only bad when you use cocaine(with levamisol) in high volumes(daily a few grams) and on the long term (5-10) years.
Its great to have people check out your stuff. unfortunately i can't do this, because before i will get the test results in my hand i already switched from product a few times.
And i also think Sesampino(don't know this guy) doesn't know that there's levamisol in his product.
I don't show pictures of kilo's in my hands in my offers because i find this unnecessary. (you can show a kilo and sell mixed coke).
But i don't think that anyone that mixes his product is going to mix it with something that's bad for his consumers.
My motto is sell uncut stuff and just ask a higher price.
To Moz30 keep making drug checks and let us know what's in there because i can only check products the ways i learned to check them and i don't have a laboratory to see mg.
Statics found on google:
America 80% is cut with levamisol
Europe: 60-70% off people that voluntarily tested there coke has mg levamisol
the percentage off cocaine with levamisol has increased since 2005
and before this date, cocaine with levamisol in it was allready being sold
regards,
c63amg
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is there a dea or similar site somewhere to compare these results with. i mean for all we know these results are actually above par. it looks bad with nothing to compare them too but we really need a large scale comparison to determine if these results actually mean anything. 25% levamisole sounds bad but if street dope is 75% levamisole then it isnt. and why would speed be cut with meth? isnt speed cheaper then meth?
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is there a dea or similar site somewhere to compare these results with. i mean for all we know these results are actually above par. it looks bad with nothing to compare them too but we really need a large scale comparison to determine if these results actually mean anything. 25% levamisole sounds bad but if street dope is 75% levamisole then it isnt. and why would speed be cut with meth? isnt speed cheaper then meth?
the cocaine is not cut for 80% with levamisol.
80% of all the cocaine on the market has levamisol in it.
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Moz30, you're a hero to the community. Can't thank you enough for your efforts. Best I could do was up your Karma +1. :)
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is there a dea or similar site somewhere to compare these results with. i mean for all we know these results are actually above par. it looks bad with nothing to compare them too but we really need a large scale comparison to determine if these results actually mean anything. 25% levamisole sounds bad but if street dope is 75% levamisole then it isnt. and why would speed be cut with meth? isnt speed cheaper then meth?
the cocaine is not cut for 80% with levamisol.
80% of all the cocaine on the market has levamisol in it.
I'm saying i would like to know how much levamisole is in the average gram of coke. We know 80% is contaminated with it but we dont know to what extent. maybe the average is just a trace amount and 25% is very high or maybe its average i dont know. if its super high then there should probably be a warning about it.
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apparently dance safe was making a testing kit, with a control vial, and then the test vial. If the test vial turns same colour, then its about 2.5-5% if it turns red its above 5% and if its barely the colour of the control then its less than 0.5%.
You guys should def look into these kits.
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Goodness I did not try any of the mentioned vendors.
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thanks for the info guys.
Moz you're a good guy!
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We should start an SR pool to buy an HPLC :P
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I'd be curious to see what's in juergen's medical grade amphetamine phosphate, I've tried it and it seems legit to me.
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is there a dea or similar site somewhere to compare these results with. i mean for all we know these results are actually above par. it looks bad with nothing to compare them too but we really need a large scale comparison to determine if these results actually mean anything. 25% levamisole sounds bad but if street dope is 75% levamisole then it isnt. and why would speed be cut with meth? isnt speed cheaper then meth?
It is cheaper per gram, but meth is much stronger.
5mg meth is equal to ~20mg amphetamine
Thus if you purchased 250mg of meth (assuming it's pure) for $50, you could split it 4 ways to get the amount that was in juergen's for $12.50 for some potent speed. Much cheaper if you bought the meth in bulk.
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Seriously, why give the vendors such a hard time about levamisole? There's not much they can do.
If you like using coke my advice is don't read about it at all. There is no good news related to the coke trade.
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Seriously, why give the vendors such a hard time about levamisole? There's not much they can do.
If you like using coke my advice is don't read about it at all. There is no good news related to the coke trade.
What I don't know wont hurt me? I feel like that's an incredibly irresponsible mantra when it comes to drugs. You should know what you're using and the possible effects so you can best prepare yourself. If you're willing to accept the risks, then go for it, but at least know the damn risks! After all, knowledge is power!
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Seriously, why give the vendors such a hard time about levamisole? There's not much they can do.
If you like using coke my advice is don't read about it at all. There is no good news related to the coke trade.
Anybody who is taking any drug needs to be responsible enough to know what the risks are. I don't think it's going to stop anybody who wants to take the stuff from taking it, but there can be no harm in knowing exactly what you are ingesting, as far as is possible.
Maybe somebody who had been wanting to try Cocaine for the first time knows that their body reacts badly to Levamisole, or is taking some medication which has harmful interactions with it, and having read this they now know that perhaps they shouldn't be buying cocaine. There can never be any harm in open and honest sharing of information.
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My question is where's CandyShop to promote his mdma pills in this thread?
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nomad bloodbath
LOL, yeah exactly!
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Seriously, why give the vendors such a hard time about levamisole? There's not much they can do.
If you like using coke my advice is don't read about it at all. There is no good news related to the coke trade.
What I don't know wont hurt me? I feel like that's an incredibly irresponsible mantra when it comes to drugs. You should know what you're using and the possible effects so you can best prepare yourself. If you're willing to accept the risks, then go for it, but at least know the damn risks! After all, knowledge is power!
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough, you and doublestuff have misunderstood my point. I was trying to point out that the coke trade is fucking evil and that coke itself is one of the most taxing drugs on the body you can take, cut with levamisole or not. I was trying to be subtle so as not to come off like a preaching asshole.
I have been committed to harm reduction with drug use for 20 years. That's why I can still take them in pure form and in moderation and be a stable individual.
I totally agree that knowledge is power and that was also my point. If you read about coke trade and the absolute murder, misery and destruction it creates the levamisole becomes a minor detail.
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Super Work - Testing the drugs makes more transparent what we gonna throw in us. We all know that the drugs are cut with some unknown and dangerous things and they are dangerous for themself. So we have do know for ourself what we consume and what not.
But good to know!
One thing: I can´t read the result of c63amg´s H
Please, can you write it here what is in there?
Only for interest - not for make someone down or else!
It would be fair for all, vendors and buyers, to know what they get at all. If something happens, vendors can protect themselves to say "Take it on your own risk!" Drugs are not labaled and copyright Medikaments or some Cola light products. It´s poison!
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Good news !!
They let me took photos anonymous in a tent, so i have better photos!!
(WoW now i see the results of the H again and it is no real H) UPDATE: IT IS !!
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Good news !!
They let me took photos anonymous in a tent, so i have better photos!!
WoW now i see the results of the H again and it is no real H
What should this mean? It is no real h? I think there are a lot of other substances in it. This is absolutely normal. Cause every time the police take heroin it will be tested and there are always a lot of different substances in it (caffeine, paracetamol and so on)
Regards B.
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So photos are on...
Good news !!
They let me took photos anonymous in a tent, so i have better photos!!
WoW now i see the results of the H again and it is no real H
What should this mean? It is no real h? I think there are a lot of other substances in it. This is absolutely normal. Cause every time the police take heroin it will be tested and there are always a lot of different substances in it (caffeine, paracetamol and so on)
Regards B.
Now i think c63amg´s coke is relay good if this substance is in every coke!
I had this H the 2nd time and i did not feel a difference to other H, but i don´t have a big H experience anymore.
But see the results for your self...
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Where can i see it? I can't read it in the video...
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So photos are on...
Good news !!
They let me took photos anonymous in a tent, so i have better photos!!
WoW now i see the results of the H again and it is no real H
What should this mean? It is no real h? I think there are a lot of other substances in it. This is absolutely normal. Cause every time the police take heroin it will be tested and there are always a lot of different substances in it (caffeine, paracetamol and so on)
Regards B.
Now i think c63amg´s coke is relay good if this substance is in every coke!
I had this H the 2nd time and i did not feel a difference to other H, but i don´t have a big H experience.
But see the results for your self...
In the top box ''erwartete inhaltsstoffe'' ( whatever that means?) it shows 4 common opium derivatives but doesn't say 0% just n.a.which means not applicable in English which makes me think their equipment was faulty or reading incorrectly. Amg's H definitely has H in it!
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This has proved to me that c63amg coke is probably the best in the EU at the moment... Think I shall be buying more!
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In the top box ''erwartete inhaltsstoffe'' ( whatever that means?) it shows 4 common opium derivatives but doesn't say 0% just n.a.which means not applicable in English which makes me think their equipment was faulty or reading incorrectly. Amg's H definitely has H in it!
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Let me see what "Inhaltsstoffe" there are. I know what it means, when I read it. I can translate for you!
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na means "nicht ausreichend( not enough)" it´s under one milligram!
Checkit is a state-funded company and i don´t know how good this tests are, but i don´t have a other possibility.
I think this tests are correct than some drugs have nearly or exactly the dose which the vendor wrote.(c63amg coke,pfandleiher,speaker,defqon)
Every time i sad that more people should make tests especially people from Nl than they can do it every working day.
Don´t know why no one do it...
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na means "nicht ausreichend( not enough)" it´s under one milligram!
Checkit is a state-funded company and i don´t know how good this tests are, but i don´t have a other possibility.
I think this tests are correct than some drugs have nearly or exactly the dose which the vendor wrote.(c63amg coke,pfandleiher,speaker,defqon)
Every time i sad that more people should make tests especially people from Nl than they can do it every working day.
Don´t know why no one do it...
I think you must have got his 1st batch, he did say his H had improved and I think that's the one I got, otherwise it's a very clever fake!
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na means "nicht ausreichend( not enough)" it´s under one milligram!
it could also mean "nicht angetroffen" (not found), but that's effectively the same.
Thanks for doing the tests. Great job!
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Good news !!
They let me took photos anonymous in a tent, so i have better photos!!
WoW now i see the results of the H again and it is no real H
can you please write what you can read on the h test or just make a photo, that i can read, PLEASE!
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@BUBBLE1986 on the first side the tester had set good foto and shure there stands n.a for all opiates, only coffein and codein inside. But I can´t believe that. I have tested it and I do H a long time (20 years). That was good H. Who knows that the test is really from this stuff??
I´m confused.
Is all that a fake? And what feel we when iv? Placebo? We all? Can´t believe that!
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@BUBBLE1986 on the first side the tester had set good foto and shure there stands n.a for all opiates, only coffein and codein inside. But I can´t believe that. I have tested it and I do H a long time (20 years). That was good H. Who knows that the test is really from this stuff??
I´m confused.
Is all that a fake? And what feel we when iv? Placebo? We all? Can´t believe that!
I am doing h for a long time, too. I never take his heroine without using coke the same day, so i can't really say it. But i take it to calm down and it did his job..... So this is very strange cause everybody liked his H....
Cheers B.
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Don´t know I ordered the second time from him(2g) and i also snorted it whit out problems.
I can only take photos from the thinks they write, more i can´t do!
If they true or not?? Don´t know!
I don´t want to fault someone especially c68amg than his coke i would order again.
Why should i cheat so much seller? I also want to order in the future.
Maybe one of them will sell special things.
And to the fu sarcasm from some people they taught i worked with candy, so much vendors have the same pills.
That´s the reason why i don´t write a name of the vendor if more vendors sell something
btw. i don´t give bad feedback´s after this tests that no one can say im unfair!
Regards M
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so C64amg's coke is actually good compared to normal stuff?
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Yes its relay good, since i know Levamisole is in every coke!
Nearly 70% and only a little bit of Levamisole.
So I would buy it again.
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My question is where's CandyShop to promote his mdma pills in this thread?
:)
nomad bloodbath
That's not funny nomad... you should really praise people like this.... instead of making jokes.
Same dude that discovered skyy's dirty pills.....& people accusing me but whatever.
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I would love to send in some samples of my goods for analysis
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C63AMG Heroin has 2 unknown substance (+2 Unbekannte) and 243mg/g paracetamol, coffein 94mg/g. No other ingredient.
Can be fentanyl but those 2 unknown are not morphine derivate.
DEF NOT HEROIN.
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Thank U for your outstanding work MOZ.
I tried sesampino's coke and wrote a review on main thread about 3 weeks ago, and your results just confirm my feelings.
197 mg is a very, very huge quantity of Levamisole for a gram, about 2 or 3 times the medium amount you can usually find...
Reading medical papers about levamisole I found that in some cases mixed with coke it can extend a little coke's effects, this is the reason because they mixed it at the origin and this is exactly the effect I've experimented with sesampino's coke, no immediate rush and never got a remarkable high, but a little more lasting effects then other coke expecially when mixed with alcohol.
The main side effect after snorting about 0.5 g in 5-6 hours was a sort of anal burning ( no I didn't have gay sex LOL ), and I think it can also be related to the huge presence of levamisole.
SeS MDMA instead was very good, to said by my friend who has tried it.
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Anyone interested to test Noreiga's china white? Very curious to find out.
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C63AMG Heroin has 2 unknown substance (+2 Unbekannte) and 243mg/g paracetamol, coffein 94mg/g. No other ingredient.
Can be fentanyl but those 2 unknown are not morphine derivate.
DEF NOT HEROIN.
Yea that's interesting wonder where users get the nods from. By the way the test results are from TS's photos.
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if i ain't selling heroin than mercedes isn't selling cars.
Search for a heroin user on SR that's been Shooting or Smoking Heroin (Not Snorting) longer then 20years.
I will send him a free sample and he will explain what real heroin is
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if i ain't selling heroin than mercedes isn't selling cars.
All i can say is that the h does his job. O.k. i used coke before, but dapj and another guy only use it itself and i guess they both know what h is and if someone creates something, that smells, tastes and it effects like h, who cares? ;)
But rather i think the labor sucks.....
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if i ain't selling heroin than mercedes isn't selling cars.
All i can say is that the h does his job. O.k. i used coke before, but dapj and another guy only use it itself and i guess they both know what h is and if someone creates something, that smells, tastes and it effects like h, who cares? ;)
But rather i think the labor sucks.....
I agree 100% with C63amg and Bubble. I have done also h from C63amg and i smoke it (chasing the dragon). I find that the lab is maybe not so spot on, or you could be unlucky and had a bad h order from C, without he even know it... i Do not know. All i can say is for myself that there is defenetly h in C63amg's batch. In my life i have much much worse quality in my hands in the beginning i started trying h!
Greettzz
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Thanks for this moz30, very helpful.
If you are pro drug testing, please sign here --> http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=16158.0
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where is checkit located? Swiss?
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I agree 100% with C63amg and Bubble. I have done also h from C63amg and i smoke it (chasing the dragon). I find that the lab is maybe not so spot on, or you could be unlucky and had a bad h order from C, without he even know it... i Do not know. All i can say is for myself that there is defenetly h in C63amg's batch. In my life i have much much worse quality in my hands in the beginning i started trying h!
Greettzz
Perhaps it might be an idea for the lab testing Silk Roaders to synchronize their lab tests? Even just two independent tests of a product from the same vendor would sme distance toward helping improve everyones confidence in cuttable substances
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tons of karma for Moz... man, you did a great job.
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if i ain't selling heroin than mercedes isn't selling cars.
All i can say is that the h does his job. O.k. i used coke before, but dapj and another guy only use it itself and i guess they both know what h is and if someone creates something, that smells, tastes and it effects like h, who cares? ;)
But rather i think the labor sucks.....
lol ever heard of krokodil ;)
Im sure c63amg got his stuff together though...
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where is checkit located? Swiss?
Austria. Vienna, to be exact.
hxxp://www.checkyourdrugs.at/
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Hey guys, just wanted to say that im real proud of our community and the way how things work here.... NOT!!!
Seeing jürgen still selling his caffeine-meth as 80% speed.... and even getting 5/5s all the way.
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I dont think jürgen cares much as long his customers are fine with his product. It could be that his customers dont even look at this thread. He is one of the longest vendors here and I think most of his product is top. (mayas, mady i.e.)
it should be sticky and more test should be added. imho
take care
no_pain
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Why is moz's karma so low? This person is foing a great service to the SR community. Thank you Moz!
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if i ain't selling heroin than mercedes isn't selling cars.
All i can say is that the h does his job. O.k. i used coke before, but dapj and another guy only use it itself and i guess they both know what h is and if someone creates something, that smells, tastes and it effects like h, who cares? ;)
But rather i think the labor sucks.....
lol ever heard of krokodil ;)
Im sure c63amg got his stuff together though...
Seems that you have no idea about 'krokodil' so stop talking such a bullshit about a legit vendor.....
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I'm glad I quit coke years ago...
Fucking animal dewormer?? fuck that.
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I'm glad I quit coke years ago...
Fucking animal dewormer?? fuck that.
It's not so bad cause I don't like worms at all. So i take the coke and fight the worms..... ;)
Just kidding!! :-)
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if i ain't selling heroin than mercedes isn't selling cars.
Search for a heroin user on SR that's been Shooting or Smoking Heroin (Not Snorting) longer then 20years.
I will send him a free sample and he will explain what real heroin is
Ive been shooting dope for roughly 10 years, 3 of those years I lived in SE Asia Phnom Penh, Cambodia. I know what real dope is. If you're serious about sending a sample I would be willing to post a review after trying your product.
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if i ain't selling heroin than mercedes isn't selling cars.
Search for a heroin user on SR that's been Shooting or Smoking Heroin (Not Snorting) longer then 20years.
I will send him a free sample and he will explain what real heroin is
Ive been shooting dope for roughly 10 years, 3 of those years I lived in SE Asia Phnom Penh, Cambodia. I know what real dope is. If you're serious about sending a sample I would be willing to post a review after trying your product.
Why should he do this? Because of this test? There are enough feedback about his h and they all are really good..... You have 4 posts till now and that isn't too much. So the community doesn't really care.
But if you go back to Cambodia and start selling china white here on SR everybody (including me) will hear your words.... :) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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if i ain't selling heroin than mercedes isn't selling cars.
Search for a heroin user on SR that's been Shooting or Smoking Heroin (Not Snorting) longer then 20years.
I will send him a free sample and he will explain what real heroin is
Ive been shooting dope for roughly 10 years, 3 of those years I lived in SE Asia Phnom Penh, Cambodia. I know what real dope is. If you're serious about sending a sample I would be willing to post a review after trying your product.
Why should he do this? Because of this test? There are enough feedback about his h and they all are really good..... You have 4 posts till now and that isn't too much. So the community doesn't really care.
But if you go back to Cambodia and start selling china white here on SR everybody (including me) will hear your words.... :) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Im aware, Just figure I would throw it out there.
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if i ain't selling heroin than mercedes isn't selling cars.
All i can say is that the h does his job. O.k. i used coke before, but dapj and another guy only use it itself and i guess they both know what h is and if someone creates something, that smells, tastes and it effects like h, who cares? ;)
But rather i think the labor sucks.....
lol ever heard of krokodil ;)
Im sure c63amg got his stuff together though...
Seems that you have no idea about 'krokodil' so stop talking such a bullshit about a legit vendor.....
wow how did i fuck that one up ! im not english so maybe ive used the wrong words, let me put it this way, I do not think that C63amg would do anything that would harm us in any way and I think that he is completely trustworthy.
you were saying if someone creates something, that smells, tastes and it effects like h, who cares? ;)
I think most people wont do krokodil after a search on youtube. and no i dont know anything about krokodil besides that.
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So let me get this straight.
16) c63amg's cocaine (in relation to 1g):
67.2% pure
+ 0.2% BEC
+ 3.9% Levamisole
+ 28.7% unidentified substance(s)
Vendor claims: "top quality cocaine", "uncut straight from south America"
17) sesampino's cocaine (in relation to 1g):
61.0% pure
+ 0.1% BEC
+ 19.7% Levamisole
+ ?% Procaine
+ ?% Phenacetin
+ ~19.2% unidentified substance(s)
Vendor claims: "Premium Quality Cocaine", "Our products are always of highest quality and bought straight from South America", "There is really not much to tell about the product, just that it's grade-A quality"
Is this right?
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I think na means something other than not enough. Maybe that they don´t know how much is in it.
I snorted the last line of the H without coke and i am stoned. So i think opiates are in it!
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n.a. = Not Available (nada) 0 amounts in the sample.
Opiate rush gives something other then heroin or 6-MAM. Morphine, fentanyl...?
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n.a. = Not Available (nada) 0 amounts in the sample.
Opiate rush gives something other then heroin or 6-MAM. Morphine, fentanyl...?
Yes and the test is always right. Like the newspaper and TV. If you are going to the doctor and than the test says you are a girl did you believe it, too? There could be a mix-up of the samples, who knows?
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n.a. = Not Available (nada) 0 amounts in the sample.
Opiate rush gives something other then heroin or 6-MAM. Morphine, fentanyl...?
Yes and the test is always right. Like the newspaper and TV. If you are going to the doctor and than the test says you are a girl did you believe it, too? There could be a mix-up of the samples, who knows?
It's a legit test, no reason to lie. Possibility of mistake or mixup in the lab are pretty slim. Wild speculations are pointless and test is legit.
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n.a. = Not Available (nada) 0 amounts in the sample.
Opiate rush gives something other then heroin or 6-MAM. Morphine, fentanyl...?
Yes and the test is always right. Like the newspaper and TV. If you are going to the doctor and than the test says you are a girl did you believe it, too? There could be a mix-up of the samples, who knows?
You have right no one can know how exact this tests are, but i have no other way to test.
I am happy that Austria make some tests not like in Germany were it is not allowed!
Better than nothing!
It does not matter how much is inside only the substances are interesting!
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c63amg has over 100 transactions maybe the half heroin transactions. Many longtime users. If you are on heroin you got withdrawals. Morphine isn't strong enough to take them away, only if there is so much morphine in it that it doesn't make sense. 50 people are liar and crazy and the paper is the king. Poor world. Cause of this matter our world is like it is.... :-X :P :o
This is my last post in this thread. It's boring....
Cheers
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So let me get this straight.
16) c63amg's cocaine (in relation to 1g):
67.2% pure
+ 0.2% BEC
+ 3.9% Levamisole
+ 28.7% unidentified substance(s)
Vendor claims: "top quality cocaine", "uncut straight from south America"
17) sesampino's cocaine (in relation to 1g):
61.0% pure
+ 0.1% BEC
+ 19.7% Levamisole
+ ?% Procaine
+ ?% Phenacetin
+ ~19.2% unidentified substance(s)
Vendor claims: "Premium Quality Cocaine", "Our products are always of highest quality and bought straight from South America", "There is really not much to tell about the product, just that it's grade-A quality"
Is this right?
That is correct. The vendors are not really lying either. Levamisole is added at the production level, before it is smuggled out of the country, so it is very possible they got it straight from South America.
With regards to the heroin, maybe it has fentanyl in it? That's active at the microgram level and has effects incredibly similar to heroin.
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if i ain't selling heroin than mercedes isn't selling cars.
Search for a heroin user on SR that's been Shooting or Smoking Heroin (Not Snorting) longer then 20years.
I will send him a free sample and he will explain what real heroin is
If lab tests say it has no heroin in it, it has no heroin in it.
An HPLC will not miss what is supposed to be the main ingredient of a sample. Your heroin is bunk.
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Wow moz that is bad news thank you for taking the time to post this info. Do the labs take samples mailed international?
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Hi just wanted to salute and thank people out there who are testing the drugs out. You are helping keeping us informed and aware , and that is a very good thing.
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Wow moz that is bad news thank you for taking the time to post this info. Do the labs take samples mailed international?
No they only do this on party's one or two times a month.
You can sent it to http://www.ecstasydata.org/
But they are very expensive! :(
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EDIT: You should consider offering a service to vendors where they send you a free sample of their product and you post test results for them. That way
1. You get free drugs!
2. We know which vendors have legit stuff.
And if they don't want to send you any we'll know they've got something to hide.
What do you think?
I totally agree. And I think moz should become a vendor (I don't know if he already is or isn't) and offer this service at a small fee to anyone who wants to have their drugs tested. Not just vendors. This thread is a real eye opener.
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the dude in question is in nl he can test and see what it says and post if he wants
i reckon a lot of the euro stuff will have fent in it,but c63s actualy tasted and smelled like gear used to in uk 5 years ago and in uk u can smoke as much as u want and wont get a nod but .2 will stop u rattling everytime so fuck nows whats in it but its not gear but something that stops withdrawels
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c63amg has over 100 transactions maybe the half heroin transactions. Many longtime users. If you are on heroin you got withdrawals. Morphine isn't strong enough to take them away, only if there is so much morphine in it that it doesn't make sense. 50 people are liar and crazy and the paper is the king. Poor world. Cause of this matter our world is like it is.... :-X :P :o
This is my last post in this thread. It's boring....
Cheers
Please, do not start to exhibit symptoms of acute hysteria. It is annoying and contagious. Turned out, that favorite vendor is only selling a forged imitation of claimed goods? Bummer! Get supermad and call science a liar. Not our fault. Although, I can probably understand the attractiveness of clouding yourself with an illusion, that you are always getting what it says on the tin. But.. how can you really blame the community for exposing dirty advertising tricks and doing something as fundamentally important, as product quality control, for your own health and safety? It is the rhetoric you are using that is boring, not the other way around. Actually, it's not even boring - it's fucking stupid. Do not forget what the drug underworld is like - it's a shady and a ruthless business. We all have very particular roles to fulfill here and pushers gonna push, as they are always after profit. People get fucked over on every corner. Drug dealers are not cute and funny guys, following a moral code of a good samaritan - no, they really aren't. Not having a clue about your product - does clearly not relieve you of responsibility for its quality, especially with "praising" claims. Intentionally lying about your product - this, already, does not even withstand any criticism.
It is the attitude like this that only supports the nihilism of a fair drug trade/culture. Justifying evidently crappy stock by acting on emotions, just because you were fooled to believe something that you really wanted to be true - is a good example.
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Tis why you go to tony,wumg,MIN,TV,NUC(for the few on his list,if he has one), paperchasing, Off the Wagon, rorock,Psilocin, JD2012,Heisenburg, brownpurple, and pretty much everyone who have good vibes(cause even people faking good vibes can be caught,or ppl won't buy from them, like I have, since I've never got scammed once in my 36 transactions)
Vendors who are bad at doing business have shitty product imo. Cause they're getting bomb shit and doing it themselves while cutting it to hell and then selling it.
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No they only do this on party's one or two times a month.
You can sent it to http://www.ecstasydata.org/
But they are very expensive! :(
Ecstasy Data will not tell you though how much of a substance there is, they will only report ratios. So if you are testing E pills you will get a report back saying something like "BZP: 2, TFMPP: 2, caffeine: 5."
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I think some testing service should become a permanent feature on SR, so that everything sold on here can be tested and the results and grades posted, that way everyone knows what is being sold and grades given, then anyone who doesnt have the grades posted looks a bit dodgy. It would help buyers know what they are getting and make it safer all round. Instead of just taking vendors word that this is pure or whatever. It would also show which vendors are selling quality stuff.
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I think some testing service should become a permanent feature on SR, so that everything sold on here can be tested and the results and grades posted, that way everyone knows what is being sold and grades given, then anyone who doesnt have the grades posted looks a bit dodgy. It would help buyers know what they are getting and make it safer all round. Instead of just taking vendors word that this is pure or whatever. It would also show which vendors are selling quality stuff.
Then you would likely face the issue of false test results put up by unscrupulous rivals.
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Then you would likely face the issue of false test results put up by unscrupulous rivals.
Yeah, that's why i've remained pretty silent in this thread.
Moz30's heart is in the right place and he definitely did a good service (assuming their legit). My problem arises in that I can open MS Office and in 5 minutes have written a sheet like the one's moz30 has posted.
I'm all for checkit and home testing your stuff, it's just that without a mass spectrum, elution profile or SOMETHING analytical that can be interpreted. I'm just not convinced at all of what information is presented in front of me in plain text with a box that they write the quantity in marker ? And for a vendor to present this as evidence for his many clients?
It would be very easy for any nasty vendor to make one of these to try and shut down other vendors or prop themselves up.
Moz30 has done a good thing though because he's taken several vendors samples and went through the time/effort to get them tested (I by no means am inferring he's one of those 'nasty vendors').
We should just be careful what information we believe cuz there are vendors (and buyers alike) who would do terrible things just to make a buck :(
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Then you would likely face the issue of false test results put up by unscrupulous rivals.
Moz30's heart is in the right place and he definitely did a good service (assuming their legit). My problem arises in that I can open MS Office and in 5 minutes have written a sheet like the one's moz30 has posted.
I'm all for checkit and home testing your stuff, it's just that without a mass spectrum, elution profile or SOMETHING analytical that can be interpreted.
Just a sheet like that can be forged in Word, an elution profile can be created with any image software with retention times and peaks corresponding to the concentrations he gave. The site he linked is real and I've seen tests on the forum from there before and it happens to have the same format in their info sheets so I choose to believe moz.
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Just a sheet like that can be forged in Word, an elution profile can be created with any image software with retention times and peaks corresponding to the concentrations he gave. The site he linked is real and I've seen tests on the forum from there before and it happens to have the same format in their info sheets so I choose to believe moz.
I didn't say that I didn't believe him, I appreciate that he took the time to do it.
I was just throwing out there that there are .. much more difficult to forge methods then a marker. You'd need a scientific background to mockup retention time/peak intensity.
Please, believe moz30 it's good there are people that take that time to care.
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That is correct. The vendors are not really lying either. Levamisole is added at the production level, before it is smuggled out of the country, so it is very possible they got it straight from South America.
With regards to the heroin, maybe it has fentanyl in it? That's active at the microgram level and has effects incredibly similar to heroin.
I wholeheartedly disagree. This is outrageous. This is not kids stuff. We are talking about your life at stake here. Selling impurities that are even more dangerous than the drug itself - is just bizarre and should always be exposed whenever a moment presents itself, not overlooked and lost in time in the midst of vague doubts and uncertainties. This is called fake advertising and product forgery. Intentionally luring someone into acquisition of your product by presenting false information - tricking them into believing something about the product that it's not. I do not want to be a silent victim of someone's greed and recklessness. If you do not know what's inside the product you're selling or worse, you do not CARE to know - you shouldn't be selling it in the first place. Otherwise, provide something else but a fucking scam, like a honest description. Not bald claims that actually praise the product and give you a distorted impression that you get what you pay for! This is wrong. That is how mostly the street market operates, but why should it be the same here? We should have a community, that calls out the vendors on their quality and actually forces them to provide a fair trade! Fuck, I do not want my drugs to be mixed with other toxic substances, especially if it's something neurotoxic! Get fucked with that.
How the fuck are you selling shit, that you know nothing about? Having others as your guinea pigs for quality testing? Not to mention that their experiences are purely subjective and can easily be mimicked by mixing different ingredients together. The end result is that they end up with more brain damage, because they fucking lowered their guard down to your sweet talk. Who benefits from this? You get a half-ass high and the vendor only stacks up profit by feeding on your naivety and health. Vultures of innocent trust.
I've seen a vendor say that he didn't even know what Levamisole was. Seriously? You are selling "top quality", "premium grade A" coke and you don't know the first practical thing about the market? What the fuck. Have some fucking dignity. Making an excuse, that you simply rely on someones word in the drug world, is fucking pathetic.
Btw, you are saying, that Levamisole is added at the production level. This is not completely true.
By April 2011, the DEA reported that the adulterant was found in 82% of seizures
We still have that 20% of pure coke flowing around. Where does that export come from? Why isn't it added at the production level, for those shipments? That's a not a big percentage, yes, but it's there! What you are saying is basically that vendors shouldn't be held responsible for something that happens uncontrollably by default, but it fucking doesn't! 20% is fucking 20%. Why is there even such a big difference in Levamisole, between those 2 sellers?
Let's look at the data from 2008:
http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/stats10/ppptab7a
You could even get 99% pure coke! And I'm sure you still can, now! That is why this shit is unacceptable. Especially for vendors, that reside in countries, where drug testing is offered for free! What the fuck. Go get your shit tested! Provide a honest product! Can't? Then don't!
Drugs turned out to be dirty? Bummer! Sell it as it is, with all honesty. Put direct specifications (in %) or words of warning. Hurts your sells? I don't give a fuck. Then you are looking for a way to cheat people. I have no problem paying a higher price for a product that I can be certain of, a product that I can trust and rely upon, not just worry about having extra unpleasant consequences for my body. Why should I snort or shoot up shit that will hurt me even more, just so that someone can make extra bucks on my misery?
High expectations? Asking for too much? Just asking for sellers not to be scum. If you can provide a fair, honest service - you will excell in this area of expertise and you will be rewarded, accordingly. The community should really be putting a lot of their potential into finding ways of handling this issue with as much attention and importance as it undoubtedly deserves, otherwise what's the point of all this?
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What is "relay scary" is that this guy can't spell really and you are trusting him to test your drugs...
-euler
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What is "relay scary" is that this guy can't spell really and you are trusting him to test your drugs...
-euler
I am doing drugs for many years now and i need NO fucking lab to test my drugs.
I test all the drugs by myself.
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What is "relay scary" is that this guy can't spell really and you are trusting him to test your drugs...
-euler
Sry that i´ve made a mistake!
Learn german and write something without mistakes!!
What is "relay scary" is that this guy can't spell really and you are trusting him to test your drugs...
-euler
I am doing drugs for many years now and i need NO fucking lab to test my drugs.
I test all the drugs by myself.
Why this results make people angry??
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What is "relay scary" is that this guy can't spell really and you are trusting him to test your drugs...
-euler
Sry that i´ve made a mistake!
Learn german and write something without mistakes!!
What is "relay scary" is that this guy can't spell really and you are trusting him to test your drugs...
-euler
I am doing drugs for many years now and i need NO fucking lab to test my drugs.
I test all the drugs by myself.
Why this results make people angry??
There is NOTHING absolute NOTHING to say against you!!!!! You did a good job for the community in good faith. That's pretty cool..... BUT I really hate attitude in these days that every bullshit you can read in the newspaper or watch in TV or such a lab test MUST be true.
I am doing drugs for many years. I need no test. I take the drug and if it does his job... GREAT. I will buy again. And not this way: Oh i feel good but the test says its crap test is right, i am wrong. OR I feel really bad but the test says: good. I will buy again.... What a stupid shit...
You know i have had real china white. The asian white from Noriega is different to that but the gear does a fucking good job and I will buy again! So what?
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Nothing to say you are right..
Every stuff(without pills) were tested by me before i went to the testsenter.
I would say 80% on Sr is quality stuff and the only interesting on this results are the substances and not the %
If i can choose between 50% coke without a other chemical and a 80% coke with the rest of chemical i will choose the 50% stuff.
But i know what you mean you can´t believe everything without knowing it for your self!
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btw. It does not belong to this topic, but can someone post the link to the vendor search??
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moz30, thanks a lot for your tests. They are a big help.
I've tested c63amgs H and C and wrote a review in the H-vendors thread. His C was certainly potent but his H did not have the desired effect on me, so your test confirms the experience i made.
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@0x00
This is an unrealistic request. Obviously it would be better if vendors labeled their drugs with everything it contained, but who is going to say "80% coke! Now with only 100mg Levamisole!" Nobody is going to buy that because they know levamisole is poison.
Do you see McDonalds saying: "Only 4g trans fat per serving!"? No. They hide that shit as much as they can and only post it because they are required by law.
Levamisole is incredibly difficult to remove, there are no solid ways to get it out of the system. So if you're making $1000's selling coke that people have reviewed and said is bomb, that you have purified carefully with dual solvent recrystallization, are you going to stop selling it because you can't find levamisole-free coke? No.
My advice? Stay away from coke until people realize how bad levamisole is and stop adding it at the production level. Or better, don't do coke. Drugs are bad, mmkay?
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@0x00
This is an unrealistic request. Obviously it would be better if vendors labeled their drugs with everything it contained, but who is going to say "80% coke! Now with only 100mg Levamisole!" Nobody is going to buy that because they know levamisole is poison.
Do you see McDonalds saying: "Only 4g trans fat per serving!"? No. They hide that shit as much as they can and only post it because they are required by law.
Levamisole is incredibly difficult to remove, there are no solid ways to get it out of the system. So if you're making $1000's selling coke that people have reviewed and said is bomb, that you have purified carefully with dual solvent recrystallization, are you going to stop selling it because you can't find levamisole-free coke? No.
My advice? Stay away from coke until people realize how bad levamisole is and stop adding it at the production level. Or better, don't do coke. Drugs are bad, mmkay?
It's perfectly realistic. Also, you are misinterpreting what I have said. I'm not asking to list every component inside your cocaine - but specify its purity. What's wrong with just "80% coke"?! That is all fine by me. We already have those propositions on SR. Whoever wants to take the lottery, gambling with his health, can go ahead and do it. If you are a sensible person, that is actually aware of the implied risks, then you would take this with as much caution as it screams for. Everything else is intentionally deceiving the customer for your sole benefit. I don't see why someone should be creating a false sense of relative safety and not take any responsibility for their deceptive claims. This is fraud. The kind of that can hurt you for the rest of your life. Why should I pay with my suffering for the temptations of some scamming-bastard seller?
Blindly selling your shit is no excuse. Like I said, especially in the countries where testing is available for free (hello vendors from the Netherlands). That is just unacceptable. Enough of this bullshit. You have bricks of coke sitting at your dinner tables, but can't even provide adequate info on your product? You vouch for it's quality, but don't have any facts/proof/evidence of such? But say it's "of highest quaity", premium" and "grade A", while it turns out to be 67% or 61% or whatever the fuck else, with large quantities of impure poisonous components? Fuck off.
Those, though, that are aware on the contrary, are much fucking worse. I really despise that kind. The scum of the scum.
My proposition is to, at least, specify the purity percentage! Can skip listing other substances involved, but let us definitely know the purity. This way - everybody wins. We can all make our own decisions from there. Not having them made by someone else, instead. Those that only want to desperately get high - will keep on making the purchases. Those that want a clean, fair product - will, at least, be aware of what the market is currently offering and make up their mind from there. The community can then test the quality of a particular vendor at any random time and actually call him out on the bullshit, if he turned out to be a lying piece of shit. Otherwise, who decides what constitutes "premium", when only vague generalizations are given? Give numbers. We need conditions, where vendors should use their pick of words carefully and be really concerned about their rep - in that case, fucking up once would already be worth a commercial suicide.
Also, about your McD example. The big difference here, is that people are already aware of what they can expect. Everyone knows it's fat. Everyone knows it can't be good for you. But the amount included is regulated by food standards. And with cocaine, well, it's a fucking black box. You have no idea what you are purchasing along with it. I don't want to acquire coke and get a third tit growing on my back. Or something so toxic that burns half my brain down.
How often do you see a fuel station selling premium gas, that is 60% pure, 25% cat piss and 15% some acid that eats through your motor?
There is pure coke flowing around, the one w/o Levamisole at the production level. We have already established that a few posts back. It's rare, but it's there. It's not like we don't have a choice. We do. But the problem, of course, is the whole nature of this business. Honesty and fairness is not the basis of this trade, but atrocious greed and hypocrisy are, along with ignorance and deceit. It's much easier to be scum, than decent.
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Why to speculate when we can ask directly.
Testing Heroin as purity test is useless. They are not allowed to express value of heroin or 6MAM, only adulterants what can be harmful.
MAIL FROM checkit:
In our analysis results for Heroin we don’t release the values for Diacetylmorphin, 6MAM or Morphin at present. Our machines for analysis are aligned for analysing so called party drugs like XTC, Speed, Kokain, etc. and not so much for analysing Heroin. That’s why we don’t release the value of Heroin components.
I don’t know about which result your’re speaking, but if Diacetylmorphin and 6MAM are listed on the result, they are in this sample. n.a. means that we can’t give the quantity for those substances.
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Why to speculate when we can ask directly.
Testing Heroin as purity test is useless. They are not allowed to express value of heroin or 6MAM, only adulterants what can be harmful.
MAIL FROM checkit:
In our analysis results for Heroin we don’t release the values for Diacetylmorphin, 6MAM or Morphin at present. Our machines for analysis are aligned for analysing so called party drugs like XTC, Speed, Kokain, etc. and not so much for analysing Heroin. That’s why we don’t release the value of Heroin components.
I don’t know about which result your’re speaking, but if Diacetylmorphin and 6MAM are listed on the result, they are in this sample. n.a. means that we can’t give the quantity for those substances.
O.K. So i am and the other heroin users who said that it is definitely heroin are right, the test is right, only the guys who thought it means that there is no heroin in it are wrong!!
HM, who said it before????? ;)
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Hello, i like your test list. If u continue the teting it would be very nice :) Could u test the european vendor cocains? im after to buy some nice coke, but i cant decide who is telling the truth about his coke. that would help us a lot of. Well done, dude so far ;)
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Why to speculate when we can ask directly.
Testing Heroin as purity test is useless. They are not allowed to express value of heroin or 6MAM, only adulterants what can be harmful.
MAIL FROM checkit:
In our analysis results for Heroin we don’t release the values for Diacetylmorphin, 6MAM or Morphin at present. Our machines for analysis are aligned for analysing so called party drugs like XTC, Speed, Kokain, etc. and not so much for analysing Heroin. That’s why we don’t release the value of Heroin components.
I don’t know about which result your’re speaking, but if Diacetylmorphin and 6MAM are listed on the result, they are in this sample. n.a. means that we can’t give the quantity for those substances.
O.K. So i am and the other heroin users who said that it is definitely heroin are right, the test is right, only the guys who thought it means that there is no heroin in it are wrong!!
HM, who said it before????? ;)
I’ve have not taking side here. Only wanted clearification and not wild speculations. Who were right or wrong is irelevant, it’s not pissing mach.
Overall that test are useless as purity for all drugs, they have other designated function. They only want to warn the public if some harmful substance is in the sample. Many other inert ingredients like lactose or sugars are also excluded from results.
bubble and others
you could send email to checkit and ask them directly for explanation, but you rather speculate ;)
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It definitely says that test is useless for identity of the sample. It says that there are not other potential harmful substances.
But it also does not prove what other opiate can be e.g. fentanyl, morphine etc
Test does not mean anything.
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As i said before...
I don't care about this or any other drug test and this is the reason why i don't ask for anything in the lab. I will do it the old fashioned way, as i said many times before....
Buy, test and decide if i will buy it again or not...
I don't need a test.....
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+1
Thx for asking them!
I post this mail on the front page!
For one month i mailed them a question how exact this results are, but i never got a answer!
Now everything is clear..
As i said before...
I don't care about this or any other drug test and this is the reason why i don't ask for anything in the lab. I will do it the old fashioned way, as i said many times before....
Buy, test and decide if i will buy it again or not...
I don't need a test.....
You can say it´s good or not good, but you can´t say if it is with 0%,5%, 20% Levamisol or other things in it!
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Hello, i like your test list. If u continue the teting it would be very nice :) Could u test the european vendor cocains? im after to buy some nice coke, but i cant decide who is telling the truth about his coke. that would help us a lot of. Well done, dude so far ;)
Order c63amg´s coke! Nearly 70% and low Levamisole!
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We should gather relevant data if something is unclear and what can hurt seller sales. I have ask checkit directly for explaination and pasted their response to solve c63amg heroin test results.
I would rather do that then to state opinions and assumptions. That is main cause for disturbance and seller can get hurt from that.
To somebody who gave me neg karma; you take this to personal!
Facts rules!
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It definitely says that test is useless for identity of the sample. It says that there are not other potential harmful substances.
But it also does not prove what other opiate can be e.g. fentanyl, morphine etc
Test does not mean anything.
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basically the heroin tests = complete waste of sample!
considering they don't tell you what you acutally want to know..
But one thing you guys found out about AMG's heroin is that there is various adulterants in his heroin!!! considering fucking Tylenol and caffine in it!!
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But one thing you guys found out about AMG's heroin is that there is various adulterants in his heroin!!! considering fucking Tylenol and caffine in it!!
All the heroin made for smoking has a bit of caffeine inside, is very important if you want you h to melt properly and run on the foil...is important of course that the quantity of caffeine is just the bit intended for this purpose and not with the intent to cut for profit... even in the heroin program in holland doctors use pure diacetilmorphine with a hint of caffeine so users can smoke it properly ;)...
noriegas#3 seemed good so far,#4too, would like to try c63amg soon to test the difference...
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We should gather relevant data if something is unclear and what can hurt seller sales. I have ask checkit directly for explaination and pasted their response to solve c63amg heroin test results.
I would rather do that then to state opinions and assumptions. That is main cause for disturbance and seller can get hurt from that.
To somebody who gave me neg karma; you take this to personal!
Facts rules!
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It definitely says that test is useless for identity of the sample. It says that there are not other potential harmful substances.
But it also does not prove what other opiate can be e.g. fentanyl, morphine etc
Test does not mean anything.
I'm sorry, but what kind of shit are you trying to pull here? First, a few posts back, I've seen how you deliberately misinterpreted the testing results and now you are trying to discredit the whole thing with some gibberish. It seems that you say whatever nonsense, only to quickly sum up "test no mean anything!!!1".
Testing Heroin as purity test is useless. They are not allowed to express value of heroin or 6MAM, only adulterants what can be harmful.
What?
"only adulterants what can be harmful" - ekhm, then why is *Caffeine* listed, on the H results image? That is a harmful adulterant? This verifies, that you are presenting misleading and deceptive information.
"Testing Heroin as purity test is useless" - so, knowing that your H is, AT LEAST, cut with *Paracetamol* and *Caffeine* is useless? Not sure if trolling or just really stupid. If not, then I can't see how you would make a statement like that. Unless, ofcourse, it would be in your direct interests, as in you would benefit from it. That would make sense. What is really disturbing, is that you try to draw the attention away to the actual 'purity' of the only 1 component (H), like how much H is in there.. even though what matters the most, is what ELSE is there with H. It's not testing heroin purity that is useless, but your lameman's attempt at saving someones ass with a bunch of pretentious horseshit, if that's what you're doing. Sudden change of heart, cause seller offered free grams? 8)
Furthermore, let's review another piece of information, that has been tainted with deceit:
In our analysis results for Heroin we don’t release the values for Diacetylmorphin, 6MAM or Morphin at present. Our machines for analysis are aligned for analysing so called party drugs like XTC, Speed, Kokain, etc. and not so much for analysing Heroin. That’s why we don’t release the value of Heroin components.
I don’t know about which result your’re speaking, but if Diacetylmorphin and 6MAM are listed on the result, they are in this sample. n.a. means that we can’t give the quantity for those substances.
So, great! "but if they are listed on the result, they are in this sample". By that you confirm, that not only is his H cut with *Paracetamol* & *Caffeine*, but it also comes with *Noscapine*, *Papaverine*, *6-MAM*, *Codein* and (!!!) Diacetylmorphine. Superb. Oh, yes, the only problem here, is that we don't know their amount.. bummer :( .. I wouldn't even give a fuck to know the amount, I wouldn't even come near that shit.
Overall that test are useless as purity for all drugs, they have other designated function. They only want to warn the public if some harmful substance is in the sample. Many other inert ingredients like lactose or sugars are also excluded from results.
It's just ridiculous, how you are purposely disregarding the point, that it is of our greatest interest to know what comes ALONG , not just how much of the BASE is there. Now, we have "smoothly" transitioned from H only to "all drugs", as well. So, the fact that we get warned about a cut, 3rd grade product that has been mixed with toxic substances (from which we will additionally suffer to an unknown extent), is "useless", right? Yeah, just keep on going with your story, wrapping the obvious excrements into a nice candy cover.
Also, you are saying, that "lactose or sugars" are excluded. Then why did we see a specification of *Caffeine*, on the H result? Shouldn't that be "excluded"? Actually, by your logic, you are hurting the sellers (that the thread is dedicated to) even more, because that means that their 61% or 67% coke is not even that - that is, if your relativity is based only on the concentration of the base-ingredient.
What is really annoying, is that you present all this as an innocent "focus" on the main (base) component of a particular drug. Thus, effectively trying to use elusive tactics to proclaim the whole testing to be worthless / useless relative to the purity of that one ingredient, even though that isn't what it's all about, at all. It's about what comes as an extra baggage. This is the biggest threat. Honestly, I laugh at your attempts of desperately trying to find flaws in the testing process, so that you could turn this all around in your favor by negating credibility of chekit. I can't call it anything but that, as that's the figure of speech you're making as of now (why make such an incoherent fuzz about it, all of a sudden, even though you were pro-checkit a few pages back?)
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It definitely says that test is useless for identity of the sample. It says that there are not other potential harmful substances.
But it also does not prove what other opiate can be e.g. fentanyl, morphine etc
Test does not mean anything.
And then this. You posted this TWO times, in your last post and a post back. One time wasn't enough? You edit your last post, just to add the same duplicate bs? What? Why... ? This only raises eyebrows. It actually gives you out pretty well - trying to do damage control for someone? Otherwise why try so hard? It could've probably still looked fitting, if you didn't repost the same thing with such an alarming amount of factual errors. Now I really wonder if you are on the sellers payroll.
You say, "facts rules", but it turns out you haven't even provided a single 'resemblance' of a fact. It just looks like cheap masqueraded lies. By the way, just so you know, it wasn't me who gave you negative karma - but you clearly deserve it.
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Sugar, milk powder, magnesium or such shit are no psychoactive or dangerous chemical substances that´s the reason why
they don´t post it.
Caffeine is also a drug..
We should gather relevant data if something is unclear and what can hurt seller sales. I have ask checkit directly for explaination and pasted their response to solve c63amg heroin test results.
I would rather do that then to state opinions and assumptions. That is main cause for disturbance and seller can get hurt from that.
To somebody who gave me neg karma; you take this to personal!
Facts rules!
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It definitely says that test is useless for identity of the sample. It says that there are not other potential harmful substances.
But it also does not prove what other opiate can be e.g. fentanyl, morphine etc
Test does not mean anything.
I think The H result did´t hurt c63amg than there are to low people at this forum and it only were posted some days.
If he sold not so much H at this time, i´m sure he sold much more coke in this time.
basically the heroin tests = complete waste of sample!
considering they don't tell you what you acutally want to know..
But one thing you guys found out about AMG's heroin is that there is various adulterants in his heroin!!! considering fucking Tylenol and caffine in it!!
It´s not a waste sample!
They only took some mg and it could be something worse in it and you don´t now it.
Maybe something really bad and you took to low for feeling it. It also damage you useless.
If i took 100g bad H the last year and than you make a test and something dangerous was fount?
It´s shit, but you can quit, instead of taking another 100g.
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Holly shit what is your problem, 0x00?? What are you crying about? Mail checkit and find out yourself! Are you an moron? You are rumbling your ass. I have stated facts from check-it support!!
I am not trying to discredit any1, I have send a email to Check-it to ask what n.a. means and why there is no value in mg/g.
And posted their reply. They do not publish those substances and thus test for heroin is not meant as how much concentration heroin is in the sample.
Its meant to warn about other substances what can be potential harmful (or not harmful) for public health and if you can not understand that test as a purity check for heroin is useless then its your problem. Have I ever said that what other substance are not important regardless of is it harmful or not? That is why this test exist, to show what other stuff is in the drug and not to tell - hey, awesome, you have 70% pure dope!! I cant care less about your nosense. Further I cant even understand what exactly you want to say!! TOTAL NOSENSE, are you wosh-wosh.
Before in the thread and before that email I have noticed that there were 2 unknown substances. I have posted that, why not? Nobody mentioned it and that 2 substances could be anything. What kind? We do not know, we still do not know. Before in the thread I said that opiate rush could be from some other no-morphine type drug. What is wrong with that? But I went further and ask clear answer from CheckIt to solve the problem with "this is h" or "this is not h" statemants. According with test and "n.a." I have and the others most reasonably assumed that there is no heroin in it. But test does not disprove it either! It is not designed to be purity test for heroin and to test purity is useless! That why I say facts rules and if we dont ask directly we can not know for sure.
According to Check-it replay does 63camg sell heroin? I dont know, if others who tried say yes, then I have no reason to doubt them. This test is not for that. Same n.a. result would be for test any heroin from any vendor.
Where did you noticed that I trash anybody, please tell me?? On what drugs are you on?
I just wanted straight answer from Checkit, that is all. Heroin testing is not meant that who has better dope as obviously now is clear that checkit dont want to publish values of heroin or 6mam and morphine, only other substances. Purity test for heroin does not serve us toward purity, and that is what I meant to say, its useless as a purity test and not that test is no good info about other substances. If they dont tell you how much or is there any heroin in it how can we even disscuss about purity or is it even heroin? Nohow, so that test is designed and useful for something else, - to warn about potential harmful substances.
It does not prove or disprove is that even heroin, let alone how much heroin is in it. But it show you useful info for other stuff in the sample.
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IT is highly probable, that without any photograph proof of the test results we will never know if this is real.
however, something like this is enough to deter me from buying from these vendors. I would rather stick to vendors who care about their customers.
Having said that, all drugs are dangerous, but drugs that contain any contaminants aside miniscule contaminants that are a result of the manufacturing process of these drugs should be avoided entirely.
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First i want to say many thanks to MrWhite for mailing with check it.
He solved a big problem and helped c63amg against a unjust treatment.
Someone should give him some karma...
What should this discussion everything is cleared!
Every substanc which were found is sad, but not really bad to someones health.
So shit on it..
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well he says hes got some new better stuff so maybe some good came from it after all
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I don´t say it for my security and i don´t know if everything will arrive. ;)
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c63amg has over 100 transactions maybe the half heroin transactions. Many longtime users. If you are on heroin you got withdrawals. Morphine isn't strong enough to take them away, only if there is so much morphine in it that it doesn't make sense. 50 people are liar and crazy and the paper is the king. Poor world. Cause of this matter our world is like it is.... :-X :P :o
This is my last post in this thread. It's boring....
Cheers
Mate I dont want to get up on my high horse here , But do your homework or a least have some real life experience like living in India & Pakistan for many years " HEROIN IS MADE FROM MORPHINE BASE " So I dont suppose it would stop WD's Would it... "HONESTLY".
Check This link www.unodc.org/pdf/research/Bulletin07/bulletin_on_narcotics_2007_Zerell.pdf
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I don´t say it for my security and i don´t know if everything will arrive. ;)
Moz I've Just sent you a PM please read a reply Cheers
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i made my order at sesampino's.... and then 5 minutes after i read this thread... made me quite unhappy and i had my doubts... but it was already to late to cancel.... So after 4 working days i got my letter...
made a try, and a second one... ;-)... and have to say... the stuff (although its mixed with levamisol) is not too bad... i didn't feel any sideeffects... i think its not the best... but if u use only from time to time it will not be bad for your body....
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MOZ30 man! thanks a fukin lot!!! your doing a great job for everyone ! Its great somebody is taking care of it and actually testing this stuff, we need to know what is what, the market will get better, fair, we all gonna be healthier and happier for sure !
btw can anyone test MDMA batches - I would be very interested :) cheers!
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I think you should test more heroin. If I'm not mistaken, it's the highest selling product on SR, thus benefits the most people. Just my 0.02BTC
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I think you should test more heroin. If I'm not mistaken, it's the highest selling product on SR, thus benefits the most people. Just my 0.02BTC
I agree completely. Maybe some of TOny76's and Opis pebbles, and Pharmerjohns tar. Maybe some of Tony76's regular gear. Good to see your doing "Noriegas", that is if you are doing his H, and both the white and the brown H.
Thank you so much for doing the testing!!! Thats awesome!!!
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There are 2 problems with testing H:
They only show the substances and not the %! Also good, but you can´t say which is better!
Yesterday checkit explained me why they don´t do this! They don´t want to confuse people with the results.
If you take 100mg MDMA or 150mg MDMA nothing will happen,but with H it can decide between dead or alive!
If they say one tested H has only 10% and some stupid inject a half gram something could happen.
Second I can´t say no to H and till i can test it i have snorted it mostly! :D
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As promised checkit posed the results on their hp, you can download the pdf:
http://www.checkyourdrugs.at/aktuelles/warnungen-marz-2012/
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nice... free dope to test mine. lol
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Ok. So how do i know if my 1 gram medical grade amphetamine phosphate wasnt meth?
it showed ok i think for marquis and mandelin, robadopes really didnt change much but has a redish color and simons didnt change color but actually it is quite fucked so i dont know if it did work...
Any toughts in how to identify if it is amph or not?
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your reactions for simon's and robadope sound right